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Home » Baking Tools » How To Get My Birthday Cake Recipe To Fit Your Tin and Other FAQs

11 July 2018

How To Get My Birthday Cake Recipe To Fit Your Tin and Other FAQs

The perfect birthday needs the perfect birthday cake. One that tastes delicious and is just the right size to feed all of your guests.

This vanilla cake calculator will give you the ingredients you need for any size of cake tin as well as the answers to lots of other FAQs to help you get your cake just right.

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One post on my blog that’s always popular is my all-in-one vanilla sponge birthday cake. It’s the recipe I use for almost all of my family’s birthday cakes and I absolutely love the idea that people are making and enjoying this on their family birthdays too.

However, it seems that popularity comes with lots of questions and I’m finding similar ones coming up again and again. People have told me that they’ve been scrolling through the comments to see if I’ve answered the questions before but with over 125 comments and counting it cannot be easy to spot the answer you’re looking for in amongst everything else.

To try and help you all out I thought I’d pull together a quick post to answer all of your birthday cake FAQs as best I can and of course if I find new questions popping up in future I’ll add them in here.

Frequently Asked Questions

What ingredients do I need to make this cake in a different size?
What temperature should I bake the cake at?
How long should I bake my cake for
Can I bake two layers in one deep tin?
Can this recipe be used to make cupcakes?
Can this cake be used to make tiers?
How far in advance can you make the cake?
Can you freeze the cake?
Can I use butter instead of margarine?
Can I substitute plain flour for self-raising flour?
What size eggs should I use?
Can I make this cake gluten-free?
How much fondant do I need to cover my cake?

What ingredients do I need to make this cake in a different size?

The most comment question I’m asked is how to calculate the quantities to make the cake in a different size. To help you I’ve built this handy little calculator (I’m quite proud of myself for getting this working actually 🙂 ).

All you need to do is pop your tin size and the number of layers of sponge you want in your cake into the green boxes and it’ll tell you what you need. The first calculator is for a round tin and the second is for a square or rectangular tin.

I’ve also calculated the ingredients needed to coat the cake in a layer of buttercream (with buttercream in between the layers too).

You need to enter the tin size in centimetres, if you only know yours in inches, simply multiply it by 2.5.

NOTE – I’ve not tested the cake in all possible sizes (I don’t have all those different tins for a start) so cannot guarantee success, However, as long as you don’t stray too far away from the original size I expect it should still work well.

Round Cake

Cake Diameter (cm) Number of Layers

Cake Ingredients
  • 0 g self-raising flour
  • 0 tsp baking powder
  • 0 egg(s)
  • 0 g soft margarine or butter
  • 0 g caster sugar
  • 0 drops vanilla extract
  • 0 tsp milk
Buttercream Ingredients
  • 0 g butter
  • 0 g icing sugar
  • 0 tsp vanilla extract Approx.
  • 0 tsp milk

Square or Rectangular Cake

Cake Size (cm) x Number of Layers

Cake Ingredients
  • 0 g self-raising flour
  • 0 tsp baking powder
  • 0 egg(s)
  • 0 g soft margarine or butter
  • 0 g caster sugar
  • 0 drops vanilla extract
  • 0 tsp milk
Buttercream Ingredients
  • 0 g butter
  • 0 g icing sugar
  • 0 tsp vanilla extract Approx.
  • 0 tsp milk

What temperature should I bake the cake at?

You can bake this vanilla cake at the same temperature specified in the original recipe regardless of the size of tin you're using.

How long should I bake my cake for?

As long as you split the mixture into sandwich tins the cooking time will be the same as for the original recipe.

Can I bake two layers in one deep tin?

Yes you can. However it will take longer to bake.

If you put the mixture for two layers into now deep tin you'll need to bake the cake for 45-50 minutes.

Can this recipe be used to make cupcakes?

Yes, you can find the recipe to make this cake as cupcakes here.

Can this cake be used to make tiers?

My parties are all pretty small so I've never needed a cake big enough to justify tiers. It is quite a soft, light sponge and so I would expect it to be fine for 2 tiers but personally I wouldn't risk 3.

If you are planning on making two tiers remember to include some sort of support in the lower layer (strong straws or dowelling cut to the height of the cake, and also put the top tier onto a thin cake board the same size as the cake (this adds additional support and also stops the moisture from the sponge ruining the fondant on the bottom layer).

How far in advance can you make the cake?

I usually bake my cakes on a Thursday and decorate them on a Friday for a Saturday party. We only have small parties so there's usually some leftovers which have always lasted for a few days after the party.

Make sure you store it in an airtight container to keep it fresh and if the weather is particularly warm I'd suggest keeping it in the fridge.

Can you freeze the cake?

Yes, you can freeze the undecorated sponge. Simply wrap it in clingfilm or an airtight bag and pop it into the freezer. When you want to use it remove it from the freezer and then make sure it's fully defrosted before decorating.

Can I use butter instead of margarine?

Yes, just make sure you take the butter out of the fridge a little before you want to start baking to allow it to soften.

Can I substitute plain flour for self-raising flour?

I've only ever used self-raising (as I've always got it in the cupboard). Nigella suggests you can substitute plain flour by simply adding an extra 2 tsp of baking powder for each 150g of flour used (so for my original recipe you'd need an additional 3 tsp of baking powder).

What size eggs should I use?

I use whatever I have in the fridge! Most of the time that'll be medium eggs but it works just as well using large.

Can I make this cake gluten-free?

You should be fine to substitute the self-raising flour for a gluten-free self-raising flour. Also, double check that the brand of baking powder you're using doesn't contain gluten (some do, some don't).

How much fondant do I need to cover my cake

If you'd like an idea of how much fondant you need to cover your cake then head on over to my fondant calculator where it'll tell you for any size of round, square or rectangular cake.

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This post was originally published on 17th May 2016 and updated with an improved calculator and more FAQs on 11th July 2018.

Reader Interactions

Comments

  1. jackie macinnes says

    November 20, 2021 at 10:43 am

    Hi I want to attempt to make this using a number tin. Would this work? Thank you

    Reply
    • Charlotte Oates says

      November 23, 2021 at 10:41 pm

      This is quite a soft sponge which isn’t the best for unusually shaped tins. You’d be better using a cake designed for a bundt tin.

    • George says

      July 22, 2022 at 8:31 pm

      Hi, can I make this recipe in four 6” by 1.5” tins or will it sink?

    • Charlotte Oates says

      July 27, 2022 at 8:06 pm

      Yes. Use the calculator to work out the quantities you’ll need.

  2. Claire says

    July 17, 2021 at 11:06 pm

    Hello there I’m planning on making this cake for my little ones birthday next month as the review are amazing and seem simple enough for a novice lol I was just wondering tho do you know how it would work with a few drops of food colouring as I’m not sure if it will change anything or if it will be just fine with it many thank for your time x

    Reply
    • Charlotte Oates says

      July 19, 2021 at 9:27 am

      You’re fine to add a little food colouring as long as you use the gel colours, not the liquid ones. Gel colours have a greater colour intensity and thicker consistency so you only need to add a little to get the colour you want which means you won’t affect the texture of the cake.

  3. Hannah says

    April 13, 2021 at 12:58 am

    Hi
    I tried Ur recipe for my Youngest son’s birthday cake and I love it. Please I want to bake a big 2layer cake for my eldest son and I want to know if I can bake all in an 8inch (3cm). Thank u

    Reply
    • Charlotte Oates says

      April 13, 2021 at 11:23 am

      I recommend making this cake in sandwich tins rather than a single deep tin as I find it rises better giving a fluffier sponge. There are also some people who find that it can sink after baking when made in a deeper tin, however this doesn’t always happen and seems to depend on the oven and tins used so may be fine for you.

  4. Yvonne Bruce says

    April 11, 2021 at 9:35 pm

    What a useful guide. This is my mantra now and definite go to. Thanks Charlotte. You have said me a fortune in buying and especially storing all those cake tins. You don’t get paid enough!!!

    Reply
  5. Isobel says

    April 07, 2021 at 1:34 pm

    Hi Charlotte I have been trying for quite awhile now to use the cake calculator for a 25cm square tin it doesn’t work for some reason I have tried the round cake tin that’s fine can you help please ?thanks

    Reply
    • Charlotte Oates says

      April 07, 2021 at 7:56 pm

      I’m sorry to hear that it’s not working. I’ve just tried it and it’s fine for me. Can you tell me what device and browser you’re using so I can try and troubleshoot.

      The measurements you needs are:

      450 g self-raising flour 4 tsp baking powder 8 egg(s) 450 g soft margarine or butter 450 g caster sugar 12 drops vanilla extract 4 tsp milk Buttercream Ingredients 450 g butter 900 g icing sugar 1 tsp vanilla extract Approx. 5 tsp milk

    • Glyn Law says

      July 01, 2021 at 5:35 pm

      Hi are you putting both measurements in, I made the mistake of only putting in the length of one side and not both.

  6. Diane Scudamore says

    March 03, 2021 at 7:52 pm

    Hi Charlotte,

    Does it make any difference if I use golden caster sugar instead of white caster sugar.
    Many thanks

    Reply
    • Charlotte Oates says

      March 04, 2021 at 11:46 am

      No, either is absolutely fine.

  7. Rox says

    January 05, 2021 at 9:22 pm

    1st time using this recipe. I used this 1 and your chocolate cake recipe. Absolutely love it. Can’t fault it 1 bit. I did this as a 3 tier cake using staws to hold the structure and used your buttercream recipe to add sprinkles all over the cake. it was beautiful. This is a recipe to keep. Thank you for sharing with us. Xx

    Reply
  8. Chloe says

    December 02, 2020 at 9:47 am

    Hi, I have tried to make your vanilla all in one birthday cake, I am only just starting out baking and had zero experience before, it isn’t bad for my first attempt it has however dipped in the middle , so you have any idea as to why it may have done this?

    Reply
    • Charlotte Oates says

      December 02, 2020 at 12:20 pm

      Did you bake it in sandwich tins or one deep tin? If you try baking it in one deep tin, this can happen which is why I always use sandwich tins.

      Alternatively, how did you measure your baking powder? You need to use a measuring teaspoon (as ones you use to actually make tea tend to vary in size and can lead you to adding too much) and then spoon needs to be level. If you add too much baking powder the cake can rise too much and then sink as it doesn’t have enough structure for the height.

  9. Andrea says

    November 30, 2020 at 4:03 pm

    Hi, I would like to make this a chocolate cake. How much cocoa powder should I add if it says 225g of flour?

    Thank you x

    Reply
    • Charlotte Oates says

      December 01, 2020 at 2:31 pm

      I have a chocolate cake version of this recipe here:

      Chocolate Birthday Cake

  10. Alice says

    November 22, 2020 at 4:21 pm

    Hello, when I’ve entered my tin size of 25 x 15 cm it gives a recipe of 2 eggs, 115g flour etc- yet your standard recipe is for 4 eggs, 225g flour – for a 30 x 20 cm tin. Does this sound right to you as my tin is not much smaller than yours? I used a cake tin calculator last year (apologies, I can’t remember if it was yours or not!) for a huge cake and ended up having to double the recipe as the initial yield barely covered the bottom of the tin 🙂 so I’m a bit wary! Thanks for your help!

    Reply
    • Charlotte Oates says

      November 22, 2020 at 7:25 pm

      The calculator rounds to the nearest whole egg. The size of your tin is somewhere between 2 and 3 eggs (slightly nearer 2). You will have a slightly shallower cake if you use 2. You could use 3 eggs (and increase the rest of the mixture accordingly). If you go for 3 it may need a little longer in the oven.

  11. Christine says

    September 28, 2020 at 8:05 pm

    Hello Charlotte and fellow bakers – I wish to do a letter cake for my daughter (therefore 2 tiers) would this sponge be OK? and if so, I have two rectangular pans of 40 x 30 would I therefore put 40 x 30 x 2 layers and then divide the mixture between the two rectangular pans? Any advice would be welcome. Thank you.

    Reply
    • Charlotte Oates says

      September 29, 2020 at 11:33 am

      That should be fine.

  12. Julia says

    September 20, 2020 at 2:30 pm

    Hi Charlotte, just wanted to say thank you so much for your all in one birthday cake and measuring calculator, I am not much of a baker and yesterday we had someone on our site who just told us he 80!!! so your recipe came to the rescue and saved the day with the tins that I had already I could get the right quantities, timings and temperature. The cake was a success, we used fruit and cream rather than butter cream. It worked a treat:-)
    Thank you

    Reply
  13. Aza says

    September 17, 2020 at 2:49 am

    Hi. Can i add coco powder to this recipe to make marble pattern

    Reply
    • Charlotte Oates says

      September 22, 2020 at 6:17 pm

      It’s not something I’ve tried, but it should work. If you do add cocoa powder reduce the amount of flour by the same amount as the weight of the cocoa powder you add.

  14. Becky says

    August 30, 2020 at 4:44 pm

    I am making a 2 tier rectangle(35cm by 24cm) cake for my sons minecraft theme cake. Do you think this cake recipe once converted to the size would be stable enough? My son also wants it to be a confetti cake would you recommend how much sprinkles to add?

    Reply
    • Charlotte Oates says

      September 03, 2020 at 12:13 pm

      It should be fine in that size.

      I’ve not actually added sprinkles to a cake before so I’m not too sure of quantities – sorry.

  15. Sarah says

    August 23, 2020 at 10:00 am

    Hi
    Can’t wait to try your recipie.
    I was just wondering how many teaspoons you would suggest for 21 drops of vanilla?
    Many thanks

    Reply
    • Charlotte Oates says

      August 24, 2020 at 4:29 pm

      I’d go for about 1/4 tsp (or 1/2 if you want to up the vanilla a bit, either will be fine).

    • Von says

      August 26, 2020 at 3:19 pm

      This would be perfect but I can’t get the calculator to work ! I need ingredients for a 10inch or 25.5 cm cake and cooking details please. Thank you.

    • Charlotte Oates says

      August 26, 2020 at 3:40 pm

      A couple of things that might help:

      1) Try refreshing the page. Occasionally I find that a slow loading ad stops the calculator from functioning properly. Refreshing the page always seems to have.
      2) When you enter the tin size use numbers only, so 25.5. If you add and letters it won’t work.

      If neither of those work let me know and I’ll pull the info for you. To do that, I just need to check how many layers you want the cake to have.

  16. Pamela says

    July 20, 2020 at 8:53 pm

    What about a 1lb loaf tin measuring 10 cm x 20 cm and 7 cm deep

    Reply
    • Charlotte Oates says

      July 21, 2020 at 4:55 pm

      I wouldn’t recommend baking this sponge in a tin as deep as that as the light texture means it’s likely to sink in the middle after baking.

  17. Tiffany Sellers says

    July 19, 2020 at 7:40 pm

    Hello
    Is there anyway I can use the above calculations to put ingredients in an 6 and 0 cake tin?

    Reply
    • Charlotte Oates says

      July 21, 2020 at 4:57 pm

      Given the fluffy texture of this cake it’s not the best for getting out of usually shaped tins. I’d recommend something like a madeira, which has a closer structure.

    • Tiffany says

      August 01, 2020 at 9:49 am

      Many Thanks for getting back to me. Do you have a recipe for Maderia cake please or do you know a good one?

      Many Thanks

    • Charlotte Oates says

      August 01, 2020 at 5:41 pm

      Unfortunately not – sorry

    • Dhanu says

      February 04, 2021 at 7:55 pm

      For 15cm round cake one layer , 180 degree right and how many minutes should I bake ? Please tell me thanks

    • Charlotte Oates says

      February 05, 2021 at 10:08 am

      160C of 140C in a fan oven and use the timings given in the original recipe.

  18. Jen says

    July 12, 2020 at 6:28 pm

    For the rectangle cake calculator what measurements do I need to input? Is it the height and length of the rectangle cake? Do you need the depth as well? Please clarify. Thanks.

    Reply
    • Charlotte Oates says

      July 13, 2020 at 7:57 am

      Height and length. The depth is standard (3cm tin depth). I keep the depth standard and then cooking time and temperatures don’t change and I know that the chalet has good results at that depth, but would be sure for deeper and shallower cakes.

  19. Melissa says

    June 16, 2020 at 8:03 pm

    Hello
    We love your cakes. I was wondering about a four layer cake(20cm) so layers being the same size. To make a tall cake. How many people do you think this would feed? Also do you think the cake would stand up to this as I know it’s quite light and fluffy?
    Thank you for all your lovely recipes!

    Reply
    • Charlotte Oates says

      June 16, 2020 at 8:55 pm

      A four layer 20cm cake will feed c. 24 people (depending on how hungry they are!). It should be fine to stand that high. I’ve made 3-layers with no problems many times and I know others that have used this sponge to make tiers. You may want to slide in a few straws cut to the height of the cake for a little extra support, but it shouldn’t need it.

  20. Claire Lowe says

    June 12, 2020 at 1:37 am

    Hi. I’ve followed your recipe a few times for cakes and they’ve been delicious! The calculator for different size tins is a great tool! I’ve always used buttercream and frosting on my cakes however I’m going to make one for a friend who loves fresh cream. Would this recipe suit fresh cream or would you amend in anyway. Thanks!

    Reply
    • Charlotte Oates says

      June 12, 2020 at 11:40 am

      Yes, it’ll be fine with fresh cream. It’s basically an all-in-one Victoria sponge recipe which definitely goes well with cream. If she likes, you couls also add a little jam too.

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